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thebankerstoy
04-02-2013, 05:22 PM
Here's a few more manuals that I thought might be helpful to some of our members.

Richard

#1

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Description: Chrysler Dodge Plymouth Build Sheet Decoder Guide Book - all 1969 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 models (cars only).
Format: printed book, 140 pages (size is 8.5 x 11 inch)
Price: $24.99.

Ebay Link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/160960331848?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648

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#2

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(http://www.ebay.com/itm/160960331848?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648)Description: 1950-1965 DeSoto, Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth Parts Interchange Manual. Includes Mechanical And Body Parts.

**Note: The seller lists this one Interchange Manual under various car model names so that it will show up when buyers do ebay searches under their particular car type and model name. This one manual covers all model years and makes shown below.

Covers the following cars:

CHRYSLER :

Royal
Windsor
Saratoga
New Yorker
Town and Country
300G
300
300H
300J
Newport
300L


DeSOTO :

Deluxe
Custom
Firedome
Powermaster
Adventurer
Fireflite
Firesweep


DODGE :

Dart
Dart GT
Wayfarer
Meadowbrook
Coronet
Royal
Royal Custom
Sierra
Seneca
Pioneer
Phoenix
Matador
Polara
Custom 880
330
440
880
Monaco


IMPERIAL ;

Crown
Lebaron
Custom


PLYMOUTH ;

Lancer
Deluxe
Special
Concord
Cambridge
Cranbrook
Plaza
Savoy
Belvedere
Fury I , II , III , Sport
Valiant
Signet
Barracuda

Covers the following items:

Axle Group - shafts , housing , gears , etc.
Bearing Group - Pinion , wheel , etc.
Body Group - Fenders , Grilles , Doors , Bumpers , etc.
Brake Group - Drums , Master Cylinders , Shoes , etc
Clutch Group - Cover , Disc , etc
Cooling Group - Radiator , Water Pump , etc.
Electrical Group - Alternator , Horn , Distributor , Wiper Motors , etc.
Engine Group - Camshaft , Crankshafts , Heads , Manifolds , etc.
Fuel Group - Carburetors , Fuel Pumps , Tanks , etc.
Suspension Group - Springs , Shocks , Tie Rods , etc.
Transmission Group - Complete Transmissions , Gears , Shaft , etc.BR> Glass Group - Windshield , Back Window , Vent , Door
Wheel Group - Hubs , Wheels

Format: CD, (PDF file) 168 pages
Price: $12.99

Ebay Links:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/220637220452?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648

Another auction by the same seller for the same manual listed under a different model name.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370564297835?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648

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#3

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Description: 1960-1972 USA Built Cars And Trucks Mechanical And Body Parts Interchange Manual

**Note: The seller lists this one Interchange Manual under various car model names so that it will show up when buyers do ebay searches under their particular car type and model name. This one manual covers all model years and makes shown below.


Covers the following cars:

AMC - Rambler - Ambassador , American , AMX , Classic , Classic 400 550 660 770 , DPL , Gremlin , Gremlin X , Hornet , Javelin , Marlin , Matador , Rebel , 550 , 770 , SST , Pacer , Rogue , SC360 , Sportabout


Buick - Apollo , Special , California GS , Centurion , Century , Electra , Electra 225 , Estate Wagon , Gran Sport , GS400 , GS , GS340 , GS400 Stage 1, Invicta , Lesabre , Regal , Skyhawk , Skylark , Special , Sport Wagon , Wildcat


Cadillac - Brougham , Calais , Deville , Eldorado , Fleetwood 60 , 75 , 60 , 62


Chevrolet Car & Pickup Truck - 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton , Van - Bel Air , Biscayne , Blazer , Brockwood , Camaro , Caprice , Chevelle , Cheyenne , Chevy II , Concours , Corvair , Corvette , Corsa , El Camino , Fleetside , G10 , G20 , G30 , Greenbrier , Impala , SS Super Sport , Kingswood , Laguna , LT , Malibu , Monte Carlo , Monza , Nova , RS Rally Sport , Suburban , Townsman , Vega , Z-28


Chrysler - Crown Imperial , Imperial , LeBaron , Newport , New Yorker , Town and Country , Windsor


Dodge Car & Truck - 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton , Van - A100 , A200 , A300 , Adventurer , B100 , B200 , B300 , Challenger , Charger , Charger 500 , Charger R/T , Charger SE , Crestwood , Custom Sportsman , Custom , Custom 880 , D100 , D200 , D300 , Dart , Demon , Duster , Dude , GTS , Monaco , Polara , Sportsman , Swinger , Sweptline , T/A , Utiline , Coronet , Coronet 440 500


Ford Car & Truck - 1/2 , 3/4 and 1 ton , Van - Mustang , Boss 302 , 351 , 429 , Bronco , Club Wagon , Falcon Club Wagon , Torino , Cobra , Custom Deluxe , Custom , Custom 500 , E100 , E200 , E300 , Econoline , Torino Elite , Fairlane , Fairlane 500 - 500XL - GT , Falcon , Futura , Galaxie , Galaxie 500 and 7 Litre , LTD , 500XL , Maverick Grabber , Gran Torino , Mach 1 , Pinto , Ranchero , Styleside , Thunderbird


GMC - 1/2 , 3/4 , 1 ton and Van , G10 , G15 , G25 , G35 , Jimmy , Sierra , Sprint , Vandura


International Harvester - C1000 , C1200 , C1300 , D1000 , D1100 , D1200 , D1300 , IHC , Scout 80 - 800 - 800A -800B - II , Travelall , 900A , 908B , 908C , 1000A thru D , 1010 , 1100A thru D , 1110 , 1200A thru D , 1210 , 1300A thru C.


Lincoln - Continental , Mark III , Mark IV


Mercury - Comet , Caliente , Capri , Colony Park , Cougar , Cyclone , Eliminator , Marauder , X100 , Marquis , Monarch , Montclair , Montego , S-22 , XR-7


Oldsmobile - Cutlass , Cutlass S Salon Supreme , Custom Cruiser , Delta 88 , Delmont 88 , Delta 88 Royale , Dynamic 88 , Holiday , Jetfire , Jetstar 88 , Jetstar 1 , 98 Ninety Eight , F-85 , Regency , S-88 , Starfire , Super 88 , Toronado , Vista Cruiser


Plymouth Car & Pickup Truck - Barracuda - Cuda , Belvedere , Custom Suburban , Custom , Fury , Fury Custom - Gran - I - II - III , GTX , Regent , Road Runner , Scamp , Sebring , Signet , Sport Fury , Trail Duster , Valiant , VIP


Pontiac - Astre , Bonneville , Catalina , Firebird , Tempest , Esprit , Executive , Formula , Grand Am , Lemans , Grand Prix , Safari , Grand Ville , GT-37 , GTO , Judge , Lemans , Lemans Sport , Sprint , T-37 , Trans Am , Ventura


Format: CD, (PDF file) 2500 pages
Price: $12.99

Ebay Link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/370725976672?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648

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#4

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Description: 1966 Convertible Top Manual - Plymouth Belvedere II, Satellite, Dodge Coronet.

Format: printed book, 14 pages (size is 8.5 x 11 inch)
Price: $19.00

Ebay Link:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400315990660?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2648


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4264door
04-02-2013, 05:44 PM
I've seen on eBay, one of these broadcast sheets where the seller was asking $150 for it!

theman440
04-03-2013, 12:15 PM
Thanks Richard - I bought the Convertible Service manual.

thebankerstoy
04-03-2013, 02:06 PM
Thanks Richard - I bought the Convertible Service manual.

Excellent Jeff. This supplemental manual is supposed to give you some additional information on the convertible models that is over and above what was included in the 1966 factory service manuals for the various 1966 Dodge and Plymouth B-Body convertibles. Please let us know if you find it helpful ok?

Richard

theman440
04-03-2013, 02:19 PM
Excellent Jeff. This supplemental manual is supposed to give you some additional information on the convertible models that is over and above what was included in the 1966 factory service manuals for the various 1966 Dodge and Plymouth B-Body convertibles. Please let us know if you fing it helpful ok?

Richard I hope it has more info than the service manual, it's pretty vague. Thanks again

ws27
04-03-2013, 02:45 PM
I've seen one before, a friend has one. I think it has tips on how to adjust and repair the top beyond the manual.

69Coronetrt
04-03-2013, 05:21 PM
The first book is a great introduction to Broadcast sheets if you want to get a feel for how they work, the different layouts and a general idea of codes.

It is far too incomplete and filled with wrong info to be a good source for decoding sheets.

It's probably a little overpriced as it is for the consistent value of the book.

Good read once----not a good reference book.

thebankerstoy
04-04-2013, 12:36 AM
The first book is a great introduction to Broadcast sheets if you want to get a feel for how they work, the different layouts and a general idea of codes.

It is far too incomplete and filled with wrong info to be a good source for decoding sheets.

It's probably a little overpriced as it is for the consistent value of the book.

Good read once----not a good reference book.

Maybe you could offer members some better options for those who are interested in decoding their broadcast sheets? Sharing your knowledge in this area would be appreciated by many members.

Maybe we could ask Kevin and Mike if a sub-category could be added in the "History--Build Sheet--Lost & Found" forum where you and others could post and discuss quality references for this kind of information. This would make information of this type easier for members to find when they need it.

Richard

69Coronetrt
04-04-2013, 01:18 AM
Maybe you could offer members some better options for those who are interested in decoding their broadcast sheets? Sharing your knowledge in this area would be appreciated by many members.

Maybe we could ask Kevin and Mike if a sub-category could be added in the "History--Build Sheet--Lost & Found" forum where you and others could post and discuss quality references for this kind of information. This would make information of this type easier for members to find when they need it.

Richard

I've never seen one good over the counter reference. A book that was really good at decoding would be very boring to read and probably not commerically viable.

The Hare book is a good place to start to give you an understanding of what things are called out on a BS and which of those items are administrative (VON, VIN, sequence codes), which are option codes, which are assembly codes and which are parts codes. There are too many omissions to make it a good reference book. Some years are covered better than others leading to disapoinment for the owners of cars that are not covered so well. The year range is pretty limited also. A '64 BS looks completely different than a '78. Covering the details of every year would be unwieldy and, again, probably not commercially viable.

While there are known errors in factory books, they are still the best place to start.

Parts books are invaluable. While not always a difinitive reference, they can help a lot with decoding sheets where specific parts are noted (carbs, choke, transmissions, wheels, wheel covers, trim rings, etc)
For as much as the guy gets trashed, GG did a heck of a job with the white books. Many option codes as well as engine, axle and other assembly codes can be found in the two white books. Part and part assembly numbers can be found there also.

Some of the assemblies take backwards engineering: like steering column codes. You have to cross reference the transmission, console or other factors to determine if the assembly had a column shift lever. Did the car have auto pilot (cruise control)? Is a tilt wheel called for?

If you are really into it, you can build a data base from every sheet you run across to see what codes seem to show up together and which codes never appear together.

MOST broadcast sheets can be decoded easily by owners with the right tools like the white books, a parts book and a little understanding of what they are looking at and what reference will give you the answer you are looking for. A BS is just a map. Once you have the key to the map, it's easy to understand it.

Kevin knows he has my full support and will do whatever is asked of me to make this board better. I'll add whatever value and assistance I can.

thebankerstoy
04-04-2013, 11:06 AM
I've never seen one good over the counter reference. A book that was really good at decoding would be very boring to read and probably not commerically viable.

The Hare book is a good place to start to give you an understanding of what things are called out on a BS and which of those items are administrative (VON, VIN, sequence codes), which are option codes, which are assembly codes and which are parts codes. There are too many omissions to make it a good reference book. Some years are covered better than others leading to disapoinment for the owners of cars that are not covered so well. The year range is pretty limited also. A '64 BS looks completely different than a '78. Covering the details of every year would be unwieldy and, again, probably not commercially viable.

While there are known errors in factory books, they are still the best place to start.

Parts books are invaluable. While not always a difinitive reference, they can help a lot with decoding sheets where specific parts are noted (carbs, choke, transmissions, wheels, wheel covers, trim rings, etc)
For as much as the guy gets trashed, GG did a heck of a job with the white books. Many option codes as well as engine, axle and other assembly codes can be found in the two white books. Part and part assembly numbers can be found there also.

Some of the assemblies take backwards engineering: like steering column codes. You have to cross reference the transmission, console or other factors to determine if the assembly had a column shift lever. Did the car have auto pilot (cruise control)? Is a tilt wheel called for?

If you are really into it, you can build a data base from every sheet you run across to see what codes seem to show up together and which codes never appear together.

MOST broadcast sheets can be decoded easily by owners with the right tools like the white books, a parts book and a little understanding of what they are looking at and what reference will give you the answer you are looking for. A BS is just a map. Once you have the key to the map, it's easy to understand it.

Kevin knows he has my full support and will do whatever is asked of me to make this board better. I'll add whatever value and assistance I can.

I for one and many others are very appreciative to have you here on the DCR to share your extensive knowledge of this type of information. I am also one of those who works with this information almost on a daily basis for myself and others who ask for my help, both on and off of this web site, so I am continually trying to promote Mopar owners to use various reference materials to expand their understanding of how their cars were built and what parts were used. As I'm sure that you will agree, the amount of misinformation on the Internet is staggering, so having excellent sources such as yourself to share correct information and high quality reference material with other Mopar owners is extremely important to the Mopar hobby, second in importance only to having parts reproduced for our cars in my opinion.

With that being said, while I do agree with most of the excellent points that you've made about some reference materials being more detailed than others, I still believe that while some of the reference books that I've posted in the past are not great sources for information for those of us who have invested the time to understand the in's and out's of the more detailed reference material, for others who are just getting into learning more about their cars and how they were built, these somewhat less detailed sources might be a better place to start their education. Hopefully these less detailed books will fuel their desire to find more expanded information. Sort of like going to grade school before going to high school before going to college.

Thank you again Doug for all of your help and it sure would be nice to have a special place here on the DCR to allow you to share your knowledge with all of us. :cool:

Richard

Racer Brown
04-04-2013, 12:27 PM
Some people (me) NEVER seem to own a car with a Broadcast sheet!!!!!!!popcorn

69Coronetrt
04-04-2013, 01:45 PM
....As I'm sure that you will agree, the amount of misinformation on the Internet is staggering, so having excellent sources such as yourself to share correct information and high quality reference material with other Mopar owners is extremely important to the Mopar hobby....

I totally agree.

When I became a new Mopar owner, I knew nothing and found so much conflicting info that it was frustrating. I wanted to help in anyway I could to get correct or even more accurate information out there. I think that was one of the motivating factors for approaching Barry about adding the data and color and trim books to HH. HH was already a great source for FACTORY information. I though adding the books would help newbies like me have a place to turn to for what the FACTORY, not some internet site, not some magzine, not some urban legend said. The books are what Chrysler wanted out there. Are there errors and updates that followed the initial releases? Yes and I still search for them to update the site. But...at least what is there now was better than what was there before which was nothing.

I've barely scratched the surface of some of these things but if I can help others learn about tags, broadcast sheets, or IBM cards in any way, or work with others to compile accurate documented information for reference, I will.

theman440
04-04-2013, 06:34 PM
Some people (me) NEVER seem to own a car with a Broadcast sheet!!!!!!!popcorn

Me Too!

thebankerstoy
04-05-2013, 10:38 AM
I've barely scratched the surface of some of these things but if I can help others learn about tags, broadcast sheets, or IBM cards in any way, or work with others to compile accurate documented information for reference, I will.

That would be greatly appreciated. Maybe you could start a thread in the "Car History-- Build Sheet Lost & Found" forum for lack of a better place currently to give us links to on-line sources, or printed material that folks could source for this kind of information? That way, DCR members can find all of this type of information in one thread rather than having to search through the various forums to find information that has been discussed in past conversations.

On a personal related note, I wonder if you could help me verify a question that I have been trying to verify regarding interior trim in the 1966 factory parts book in the Interior Trim section for my 1966 Coronet 500 2 door hardtop with factory bucket seats? I'm using the P4W White Trim Code color as an example because that's what I'm changing my cars seat color to, but my question would apply to any of the factory seat trim colors and for that matter would also apply to other Coronet, Dodge, Plymouth and Chrysler seat trim color options.

Parts in question.

Section #: 23-108-4
Part description: Cushion, Front Seat. W-P, (2 door hardtop Coronet 500 model) with interior trim code P4W (White)
Part #: 5412 B4W
Quantity used: 2

Section #: 23-108-5
Part description: Cover, Front Seat Cushion, W-P, (2 door hardtop Coronet 500 model) with interior trim code P4W (White)
Part #: 5851 B4W
Quantity used: 2

Section #: 23-108-15
Part description: Spring and Cover, Front Seat Back, W-P, (2 door hardtop Coronet 500 model) with interior trim code P4W (White)
Part #: 5740 B4W
Quantity used: 2

Section #: 23-108-16
Part description: Cover, Front Seat Back, W-P, (2 door hardtop Coronet 500 model) with interior trim code P4W (White)
Part #: 6004 B4W
Quantity used: 2

My question:

Since I do not see a separate listing for bucket seat bottom cushion, or seat back foams by themselves and the listings for the bucket seat bottom cushions and seat back assemblies both have trim color codes, I've come to the conclusion that if an owner, or dealership needed bucket seat foams replaced due to being damaged beyond simple repairs back when these parts were still available through Chrysler, the cars owner, or dealership had to purchase the seat foam and cover as a single unit rather than separately? If only a bottom, or back seat cover was damaged, but the foam was still in good condition, the seat covers were available as separate pieces?

Am I on the correct track here Doug? Thank you for your thoughts.

Richard

Racer Brown
04-05-2013, 04:15 PM
I've found one thing about Chrysler stuff, nothing's set in stone, I've seen a lot of devations!!!!!!!!

69Coronetrt
04-05-2013, 09:02 PM
Since I do not see a separate listing for bucket seat bottom cushion, or seat back foams by themselves and the listings for the bucket seat bottom cushions and seat back assemblies both have trim color codes, I've come to the conclusion that if an owner, or dealership needed bucket seat foams replaced due to being damaged beyond simple repairs back when these parts were still available through Chrysler, the cars owner, or dealership had to purchase the seat foam and cover as a single unit rather than separately? If only a bottom, or back seat cover was damaged, but the foam was still in good condition, the seat covers were available as separate pieces?

Am I on the correct track here Doug? Thank you for your thoughts.

Richard

Richard, At first I thought you were on the right track but consider this:

Looking at the 1/66 edition (so your pages may be slightly different).

I thought I'd try and find just the seat frame section to see if things like foam was listed. No luck. I looked for common items in the interior section. No luck. But I did find the seat frame page. Look at ILS page 23-304 through 306 (the BODY section, not the TRIM section). You should find seat frame parts. The illustration shows the back springs and frame are serviced in 23-108-12. If you go to the TRIM section and look at that reference, all the PNs have trim color codes......so

what if the 'CUSHION' 23-108-12 included an entire frame, pad and cover as one assembly instead of the dealer having to order the cover, foam, frame, trim and other parts separately? It would certainly be easier and take less man hours to replace the whole back of the seat as one unit as opposed to having to put a pad on a frame, then the cover, then the trim, latches, etc, etc on the original frame. To me this makes more sense.

COVER could mean just the cloth or vinyl material. CUSHION is the whole bottom (23-108-4) or seat back (23-108-12) assembly. Your thoughts?

69Coronetrt
04-05-2013, 09:06 PM
Looking at 23-108-4 again, I see things like w and w/o airfoam and w and w/o heavy duty springs. The only way those references make sense with a trim code is if it is an assembly.

thebankerstoy
04-10-2013, 03:34 PM
Looking at 23-108-4 again, I see things like w and w/o airfoam and w and w/o heavy duty springs. The only way those references make sense with a trim code is if it is an assembly.

Hello again Doug,

Please excuse the time delay in my response to your last two posts, but I've had a few irons in the fire, plus I wanted to recheck all of the information that you so kindly provided, as I had also gone over all of that information myself, but I wanted to make sure that I hadn't missed something. I do believe that you're thoughts about the seat "CUSHIONS", or "SEAT BACKS" being complete assemblies makes a lot of sense and that's why none of the individual bucket seat foams are listed with separate part numbers as we've both found out. As far as the "COVERS" go, I'm thinking that dealerships sold those to upholstery shops, or individual customers as an over the counter option to have the repairs done outside of a dealership.

Thank you again very much for your help. :)

Richard